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Specifications indicate that the car's internal charger is 40 amp, which is clearly 9.6 kW at 240 V. Intriguingly, a decal inside the charging compartment's door of the car at dealer that I just examined indicates an option of 3-phase AC at 400 V (presumably this is the standard that Europe and most of the rest of the world outside of North America uses of three phases at 230 V phase-to-phase, 400 V to ground). Setting aside the difficulty of getting 230/400 V power in USA and the need for an inlet with pins for all three phases, this suggests that the car could charge at up to 48 kW (3 times 40 amp times 400 V). I have not been able to find any further information on the kW capacity of the internal charger on three phases, however.
 
hajhouse said:
Specifications indicate that the car's internal charger is 40 amp, which is clearly 9.6 kW at 240 V. Intriguingly, a decal inside the charging compartment's door of the car at dealer that I just examined indicates an option of 3-phase AC at 400 V (presumably this is the standard that Europe and most of the rest of the world outside of North America uses of three phases at 230 V phase-to-phase, 400 V to ground). Setting aside the difficulty of getting 230/400 V power in USA and the need for an inlet with pins for all three phases, this suggests that the car could charge at up to 48 kW (3 times 40 amp times 400 V). I have not been able to find any further information on the kW capacity of the internal charger on three phases, however.
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In Europe, the car will charge at 22kW on 400v three phase (32 amps per leg).

In the USA, the car uses a DIFFERENT single phase charger of 40 amps.

This is the same issues with Tesla Model S and Toyota RAV4 EV (no three phase option ever offered on the latter, as it was only sold in California).

All the above mentioned cars use Tesla drive trains, batteries and chargers.
 
the ar in europe will charge ate 11kw .. like the model S without dual charger...

its a three phase 16A in europe... the 22kw is three phase 32A.... that we have in europe but the B class dont permit that..

so.. forget your idea... or change the car... like the chademo upgrade of the independent company....
 
TonyWilliams said:
In Europe, the car will charge at 22kW on 400v three phase (32 amps per leg).
In the USA, the car uses a DIFFERENT single phase charger of 40 amps.
This is the same issues with Tesla Model S and Toyota RAV4 EV (no three phase option ever offered on the latter, as it was only sold in California).
All the above mentioned cars use Tesla drive trains, batteries and chargers.
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That does seem rather more likely than that a 40 A three-phase charger is offered in the US, sadly. It's surprisingly sloppy detailing to use the inapplicable European decal on a US car, though!
 
Th e car in europe only charge at 11 kW ... Three phase 16 A each phase ... Its what we call red plug ...its Pike the single charger in tesla model S ...
 
rdias said:
Th e car in europe only charge at 11 kW ... Three phase 16 A each phase ... Its what we call red plug ...its Pike the single charger in tesla model S ...
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16a * 400 volts * 1.73 = 11kW
 

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