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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:57 pm 
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Z, I am a little curious how they can do that without a replacement in hand given whatever the compliance rules are. If they have a replacement, I am all theirs. If not, see other thread for the not so great choices available to me in November/December.

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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:40 pm 
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Jeff! Hi I am in the same boat, after 2 years 8 months and 30,000 miles driven, I have to consider the replacement for my beloved B-Class ED... Mercedes is just not committed to EVs, so I can't do it again. I was hopeful that I could extend my lease by 6 months but Mercedes Benz Financial says absolutely not. No way unless I have another M-B on order. The usual extension is 3 months if you have an order in the system. My buyout is $23k and the car will most likely go to auction and sell for $14k. I know a guy who buys cars at auction and he could specifically look for my VIN and buy it for me. But ultimately I wanted the B250e to be 44-50 kWh by now instead of 36 kWh and have a DCFC option for me to continue. I get these jobs that are 90 miles round trip and I have to find L2 chargers and leave an hour early to charge halfway! No more. Honestly the 90-150 mile (winter-summer) range of the new 2017 i3 REX will be good enough for me 99% of the time, my wife with use the REX motor, I will seek out DCFC. 150 miles is perfect weather, no Cooling or Heat, low speeds.
Over at BMW, the product keeps improving!!! I'm ordering a BMW i3 REX 94Ah in October for December delivery from Chris Chang of BMW of Bloomfield (NJ). They are BMW i3 people and know how to make a good deal. I'm getting a loaded 2017 car MSRP $56k and the newest thing is you can "code" your car with an OBD to WiFi adaptor and your iPhone -- no more using laptop.. You can tweak the parameters of the car -- when the REX engine, kicks in, etc. The newest i3 has a moonroof, leather seats, and ACC stop and go which should be cool for bumper to bumper FDR and West Side Highway traffic. I'll keep you posted on my exact deal as I get closer to October. I drive a lot so I need 15k miles a year this time, hoping for under $400 a month, $2500 down.


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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:41 pm 
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Alright. Finally I can give updates on my lease.

My family like this car a lot to a point where we want to keep this and new B class isn’t really that much better. We worked with Mercedes Benz of Beaverton to actually get about 2.5k less than payoff. If this helps our forum friends, PM me for contacts.

In addition to that, I also worked with Tafel Motors to get ELW For 1,750, 3 year/75k option.

We will enjoy this car for a while!


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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:04 pm 
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WantOne,

You are the first I know to successfully negotiate a discount to the payoff. I think you and that there are a lot of cars coming off lease helped. Congrats and thanks for posting.

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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:50 am 
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My '15 B-ED lease is up next month and I also tried to extend lease but MB declined with similar response to wtzouris. It's been a great experience overall with my first EV and there is no going back ICE cars for me. However, the limited range and no DC fast charging are no longer suitable for me. Too bad MB does not have any good EV options now. I had reserved a Tesla Model 3 a couple years ago but my reservation was recently delayed to Apr-Jun this year so I wasn't sure it was worth the wait. Unfortunately there is no test drive for the Model 3 yet and I didn't want to just wait for something I wasn't sure about especially given some of the early info I have seen. So, I rented one for a long test drive with my family. The 300 mile range is real and it has amazing torque and quickness (even better than the Tesla Model S and Model X that I have test driven) so B-ED is really no match in this respect. The interior is also large enough to accommodate 4 adults for long drives without serious discomfort. However, the Model 3 has some real quirks due to the use of only one touch screen tablet for control of almost everything in the car but ultimately I think most issues can be addressed via software UI improvement that Tesla delivers on a regular basis via OTA updates. Another annoyance is the lack of a key fob and only smartphone app via bluetooth and key card via NFC can be used to lock/start/unlock the car. The fit and finish and interior content is decent for the class but no match for my B-ED which has the upgraded leather and typical nice MB touches like easy power seat adjustments. Overall, my conclusion is that the Tesla Model 3 definitely needs some improvement but still worth waiting for. So, I will most likely move on to a Tesla Model 3. I do plan to check out the upcoming MB EQ line in a few years.


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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:56 pm 
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I am gonna turn mine back in, but I am honestly having a tough time with a replacement. I tried to give Mercedes a shot due to the early termination and turn in fee waiver, but I thought the C350e was crap and it really wasn't worth the money. It was more like a hybrid with a plug than EV with gas backup. The two dealers chased after me hard, but I told them the car simply wasn't worth it and I was'nt going to buy the car without a double digit % discount.


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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:34 pm 
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I am on the same boat, lease is expiring in less than 3 month. It hard to find good successor for about the same money(I am in WA)
So, options I consider:
1. Keep B250 (need to negotiate purchase price, tough)
2. Chevy Bolt Premier -overpriced to my viewpoint
3. Kia Soul EV+ 2018 - might be good, lease price is good
4. Honda Clarity - I am not really like sedans, I like high seats

I have some hope for Hyundai Kona Electric but it won't be available till fall


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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:56 pm 
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GGV,

Having been in your shoes, it came down to whether to buy out lease or lease a new one. So hard to figure out until I realized that leasing a 2017 for 24 months cost me less money than buying my 2014. I assumed little to no resale value to keep my math simpler. I know, unfair. Wow, I just went to cargurus.com and they only found 10 2017s left nationwide. A couple of months ago, they listed 60+.

My goal was to bridge to the next generation of long legged electrics as none of the current crop met my value threshold. They were either too expensive or not as nice.

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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
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I was told (by dealership salesperson) that new b250s must be sold before April 1.
Resale value is concern to me but I don't think it's 0. Average KBB price for my car is ~18.5K and buy-out ~20.5K.


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 Post subject: Re: Expiring Lease; Now What?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:12 pm 
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GGV wrote:
I was told (by dealership salesperson) that new b250s must be sold before April 1.
Resale value is concern to me but I don't think it's 0. Average KBB price for my car is ~18.5K and buy-out ~20.5K.



And what happens to unsold inventory. I really doubt that Mercedes will accept a return.

I love my 2017 B but I realize it is an unwanted odd duck in the lineup. It really only exists for CARB credit. It really does not matter to Mercedes that I love my car.

I really hope that if Tesla goes belly up they buy back the cars since support would be a problem.

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