GlennD
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Re: Next EV?

Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:07 pm

I got the two Koren cars mixed up. The Hyndui is a Kona and the Kia is a Nero. Both are the same car so it bwill depend on price.
2014 Cirrus White B Class (Totaled).
2016 Urano Gray eGolf.
I loved the VW but it was too hard to get into for my aged body.
I am back to another 2017 Cirrus White B250e.
Blind Spot Assist, Performance 3 and Sahara Beige interier.

hallcp
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Re: Next EV?

Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:44 pm

Sadly, the options for this year don't look good. All the 1st gen of EV's are deleted (Volt, B-Class, range extender BMW i3) but the next gen just aren't coming online soon enough (Tesla Model Y, EQC, e-Golf, Mini-E) and those Kia and Hyundai offerings don't look like they'll be sold in any quantity in 2019. Not sure the BMW i3 is an option for you, I understand the rear seat is cramped. Fiat 500e likewise is great to drive, but rear seat access is really not practical.

Too bad your M-B dealer has been a pain. The one here in Cary, NC has been very gracious. They've only seen one other B-Class in their lives but seem to have at least one tech trained on them.

My guess is we're two years away from real EV options aside from the Tesla Model S/3/X. I hope I'm wrong.

C. Hall
Raleigh, NC

JeffRay
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Re: Next EV?

Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:08 pm

How about the IPace and the Audi thingee?
Jeff in NYC
MB '17 B250e; MB '06 E500W; MB '81 380SL

hallcp
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Re: Next EV?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:41 pm

The latest on the Audi is that they are re-thinking things since they got a close look at a Model 3. It sounds like they realized their car would be too expensive for what it offered. Seems like others are learning how hard it is to make a mass-market EV.

The i-Pace on the other hand sounds like it may be for real. Some of these are out in the wild and all the reviews I've seen were good. I understand it will be priced more towards a Model S than a Model 3 however.

I wonder if my local Jaguar dealer will get one in? They're across the parking lot from my M-B dealer!

Charles.

JeffRay
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Re: Next EV?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:46 pm

Charles,

Funny, same here, the Jaguar dealer is caddy corner across from the MB dealer. Yes, pricey so looking for the base version to start with. Will compare to the MB ERC or whatever it is called. To justify the cost, will intend to replace both my trusty wagon and the leased B250e with one that I can plan to own and drive for 5+ years.

We shall see.
Jeff in NYC
MB '17 B250e; MB '06 E500W; MB '81 380SL

oilerlord
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Re: Next EV?

Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:36 pm

Hey guys,

Haven't been around here in a while. I'm still digging my 2014 B250e though it's now approaching 40K miles and the battery is showing it's age - mostly in the last two weeks of extreme cold conditions (between -20C and -30C). With that said, spring/summer/fall range is still excellent, and I still love the car. I still have the goal of getting it to over 80K miles but it's winter range isn't going to be getting better, only worse. Not really that big of a deal since I can just take the keys to my wife's X3 whenever cold weather dictates the "right" car to drive. Just reporting my experience in winter.

Since we have one gasoline, and one EV vehicle; our bases are covered. Jeff I like the Jaguar too but damn, that's a lot of cake for any car. Considering I only paid $23K for my B (used/6K miles) - no way can I justify buying a brand new EV for $75K+.

When the time comes, I might comb through the Internet looking for a newer battery that came from a wrecked B. If I could pick up a used pack with very low cycles for around $5K - I think I'd jump on it a couple of years from now to extend the life of my car. Short of that, I think a Bolt EV Premier is a pretty solid deal on used market these days. Not quite the level of the 3-point star in terms of quality & luxury, but a decent EV nonetheless.

Anyway, feel free to catch up on where are with your B, and if you're still digging it. Again, I still love mine. The good news is that it isn't -30C all year round. My "normal" 100 mile range will come back soon.

rrattie
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Re: Next EV?

Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:40 pm

Did your 2014 have the range extender package? Just wondering because you mentioned "usual 100 mile range". I bought mine in October with 10k miles on it and haven't had a change to see what it's like to drive in actual nice weather yet.
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2014 South Seas Blue Metallic B-Class 250 ED

oilerlord
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Re: Next EV?

Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:46 am

No, my car didn't have the range extender but because I own (not lease) the car - it's a "feature" I wouldn't want to use anyway. Yeah, you'll get 100 miles pretty easily on the standard 28 kWh's of usable capacity...that is, unless you drive with a lead foot. The difference in range between driving in winter & summer really is like night & day. The combination of running the heater (that I believe uses at least 9 kW) and a cold battery = losing half your range - easy.

My car had 6K miles on it when I bought it in 2016. It's crazy how cheap you can (still) buy these for.

rrattie
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Re: Next EV?

Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:43 pm

That's great to hear. Mine was just under $20k with taxes and tags and it's basically brand new. It was 48 this morning in my garage and outside and I had 73 miles of range on the GOM. I drove to work, 9 miles away, and used 3 miles of range. I love this car.
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2014 South Seas Blue Metallic B-Class 250 ED

oilerlord
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Re: Next EV?

Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:50 am

Yeah, the "GOM". I find it's really only fairly accurate once you get down to the last 10 or so miles of range remaining. Beyond that, all bets are off...especially in winter. It makes range "guesses" based on how you drive. What screws it up is when different drivers are behind the wheel. Suffice it to say, my wife is no hypermiler.

This is the first winter that I've had some close calls - and the first time I didn't have enough juice left to make it home. My wife and I went out to our club for dinner, and though I knew I was cutting it close on round-trip range - I figured I'd just plug into a 120v socket in the parking lot since we were going to be there for a few hours. When we got there, the parking lot was jam packed because there was an event being hosted there. I tried to baby the car home on 8% remaining. Ended up being about 3 miles short. We took an Uber home, and invoked the free AMA car pickup service (as part of the membership). Oops.

My wife took the B to yoga last Saturday. For whatever reason, I didn't plug the car in the night before. She drove the car without looking at remaining charge. When she was coming back, had the "battery on reserve level" message. I came to get her, and we ended up having brunch at a restaurant that had a 120v plug I could plug in for an hour. Barely made it home. Of course, this was all "my" fault, but I digress.

I know this sounds like I'm a total noobie when it comes to driving electric, but I'm not. Between life's "shit happens" moments, and the car's winter range degradation, this sort of thing can happen to anyone.

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