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    Motor whining, needs replacement

    ALL CAPS. That always gets attention. Seriously though, I enjoyed my time with the B. Sad to see a few of us have motor issues but by and large we know the majority of B250e's that were sold were trouble free (like mine). Long story but I went from ordering a Tesla Model Y, hating that...
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    Next EV?

    Hey Jeff, I'm bringing back my VW TDI sportwagen from our place in AZ (when the border opens again, that is). Nothing like owing & driving the yin and yang of vehicles. I love both cars for different reasons.
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    Next EV?

    Mimark, Good job on negotiating a good deal. Dealers (from experience) don't want slow moving units piling up on their lots, especially used EV's that just keep hemorrhaging resale, and that salespeople have no incentive or motivation to sell. Your dealer decided their first loss was likely...
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    Next EV?

    For me, this RAV4 checks off all the boxes: https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-revs-up-lineup-with-new-302-horsepower-rav4-prime/ - Can do 40-ish mile trips pure EV - No need to "take the other car" when winter kills my EV's range. - Roomy / well appointed / reasonably luxurious - Fast
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    Daimler Layoffs?

    I also think that we are already starting to witness a trend where next generation of millennials aren't seeing the value in shoving $30-50K (even if they had it) or a big monthly payment into a vehicle. Notice how so many cuteUV's are coming out - trying so hard to attract a younger audience?
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    Daimler Layoffs?

    I think it's Daimler coming to the realization that people (generally) aren't buying cars anymore in favor of minivans disguised as small SUV's. I expect more manufacturers to reduce or eliminate cars from their lineups like Ford has done.
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    2017, 18k miles, $21K - should I buy?

    I think MB started including Range Plus on 2015 and later model years. My 2014 doesn't have it / no button on the dash. If you're also shooting for 100K, you won't want to use it.
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    2017, 18k miles, $21K - should I buy?

    Hey Peter, My car doesn't have the range-extender option - not that I'd ever use it anyway. A goal of mine is to see if I can get the car to 100K miles, and still have at least 70-80 miles of range in summer. By then, I could see the car only capable of around 30 miles in extreme cold. At...
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    erorr code p1c0300 -malfunction visit workshop

    Just a guess, but could this be an issue with the 12V battery? A lot of people don't realize how integral the 12V battery is to the overall operation of the vehicle. It doesn't only power the radio and windshield wipers - critical functions also rely on it. My car is a 2014 model. This...
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    2017, 18k miles, $21K - should I buy?

    I'll also mention as of today, my B has 47,358 miles on it. I have noticed some battery degradation but that is to be expected - especially in winter. At -20C, (and with the heater ON), the car at best has about a 40 mile range. In summer, my B is still at around 90-95 miles. Regardless...
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    2017, 18k miles, $21K - should I buy?

    RE your concerns: I Googled the service schedule and it lists oil changes at every 5000 miles. Is that a typo? What maintenance is actually required? Yes, obviously oil changes aren't applicable to an electric car. With my 2014 model, I've only changed the battery desiccant cartridge (because...
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    B250 Owner's reliability experiences

    Jeff, it's amazing to witness 300-400 vehicles auctioned off in an afternoon. Even more astounding is this happens every week at over 100 locations.
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    Long Term Ownership: anyone have a high mileage B250e?

    As posted in another thread, I bought mine with 6K miles; now at 48,600. No issues. Great car. As an aside, I still find it strange that this is considered "high mileage" given I have a 2012 Jetta Sportwagon TDI with 78,000 miles, that should easily hit 200,000 with routine maintenance. The...
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    B250 Owner's reliability experiences

    I read about problems with Tesla motors and/or electronics in the RAV 4 EV experiment, but honestly, this is the first time I've heard about this seemingly "big" issue in the 250e - and I did a TON of research before deciding on this particular EV. Like Jeff, I'd consider picking up a low mile...
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    B250 Owner's reliability experiences

    Jeff, that's me. Mercedes sends lease returns to Manheim - the largest dealer auction network in North America. I used to import about 10-12 cars per year into Canada from the US. If you're a dealer, you can find out what other dealers bought the cars for, and how long they've had the unit...
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    B250 Owner's reliability experiences

    Imo, the B250e (along with most compliance-car / small battery EV's) were made to be leased because: - They are usually offered with huge lease incentives, but purchasing the car is typically done close to MSRP. - You'll return your leased vehicle before battery degradation becomes an issue. -...
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    B250 Owner's reliability experiences

    Yeah, it's been a while since I posted here. Too bad the 250e community is so small. I think MB would have had a bigger hit on their hands if they were somehow able to cram a 60 kWh battery in the thing, but then again, they never intended to sell a lot of these cars. It's pretty obvious...
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    B250 Owner's reliability experiences

    45,800 mile update: No issues with the car whatsoever, however I've noticed the battery doesn't have the "cold cranking power" in winter that it had when I picked it up with 6K miles on it. In particular, and as others have reported, once the outside temperature goes under 50F - range plummets...
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    Next EV?

    Yeah, good deal. That's SO much car for the money. I think I paid about $23,000 for mine back in 2016. With a Tesla battery and Model S motor, the B250e is still, hands down, the best overall value in a used EV around. After driving mine for nearly 40,000 miles, and other than wishing for a...
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    Next EV?

    Yeah, the "GOM". I find it's really only fairly accurate once you get down to the last 10 or so miles of range remaining. Beyond that, all bets are off...especially in winter. It makes range "guesses" based on how you drive. What screws it up is when different drivers are behind the wheel...
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